It was great to participate in this panel discussion with Roger Yates, Nella Giatrakou, and Wendy McGovern on The Animal Rights Show last year. Here is the recording...
Wednesday, 18 June 2025
Saturday, 21 December 2024
Episode 106: Discussing vegan animal rights history, ethics, and activism with vegan sociologist Roger Yates
In this discussion, Roger and I explore the history and values of the vegan, animal rights, and anti-vivisection movements. Roger explains what he means when he says that veganism is the Great Refusal, and we discuss tactical and theoretical issues and debates within modern-day animal advocacy. Roger also shares his idea about how vegans could collectively purchase land that could be used to advance the goals of the vegan social movement.
This interview was recorded during November, World Vegan Month.
Many thanks to Roger for being a guest on the show again!
During this interview, we discussed the essay, "Autobiography of a Vegan" (1964), by the early vegan advocate and conscientious objector Rubin Abramowitz. The essay can be found on Archive.org here.
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
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Wednesday, 18 September 2024
Episode 105: Interview with vegan sociologist Matthew Cole about critical animal and media studies, speciesism and veganism in the media, and an update on the Donald Watson Archive
This week, I am pleased to present my fourth interview with the vegan sociologist Matthew Cole, Senior Lecturer at The Open University. Matthew has been a vegan since 2005 and is the author and co-author of a number of academic articles and book chapters about the sociology of veganism and human-nonhuman animal relations. With his partner, the vegan sociologist Kate Stewart, Matthew co-authored the 2014 book, Our Children and Other Animals: The Cultural Construction of Human-Animal Relations in Childhood. In 2016, an anthology was published that was edited by Matthew Cole, NĂºria Almiron, and Carrie Freeman, titled, Critical Animal and Media Studies: Communication for Nonhuman Animal Advocacy.
In this interview, we discuss critical animal and media studies, and Matthew tells me about his research with Kate Stewart about human cultural attitudes towards urban-dwelling foxes in the UK. We also explore the place of environmental arguments in vegan advocacy, the use of mainstream and independent media to promote animal rights, how veganism tends to be portrayed by the mainstream media, and Matthew’s more recent writing on the similarities between a Batman storyline and a campaign to rename two species of aquatic animals in the UK. Then Matthew shares an update about the Donald Watson Archive Research Project.
Matthew Cole's Academia.edu page can be found here (please write to him if you'd like to read his writings that are listed there). Matthew's work on OpenLearn, including his short interactive course about veganism and speciesism, can be found here.
Thanks to Matthew for being a guest on the show again!
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
You can find Always for
Animal Rights on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
Thursday, 18 July 2024
Episode 104: Interview with Ronnie Lee, co-founder of the Animal Liberation Front, about consistency and vegan ethics
This week, I am pleased to present my third interview with the long-time animal liberation activist Ronnie Lee. Ronnie has been a vegan for more than five decades and is best known for co-founding the Animal Liberation Front in the 1970’s. Currently he works to educate the public about the importance of becoming vegan. He also encourages vegans to become more involved in vegan education initiatives, in order to work towards the abolition of the exploitation and oppression of our fellow animals.
In this interview, Ronnie describes what it was like trying to obtain vegan-friendly food in the 1970’s. Then we discuss why war, environmental destruction, and human rights violations are not in alignment with the vegan ethic; why it’s important to challenge speciesism and human supremacism, rather than focusing primarily on cruelty; and how we can more effectively interact with the mainstream media. Ronnie also speaks about the role of anti-vivisection campaigning within the animal rights movement over the years, and he shares his views on celebrity culture within the vegan community.
After listening to this episode, you may be interested in tuning in to the two latest episodes of Still Alive!, the online talk show that Ronnie co-hosts with Roger Yates: The Media and the Message and Vegans and War.
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
You can find Always for
Animal Rights on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
Wednesday, 3 July 2024
Episode 103: Discussion with animal rights advocate Jeremy Hess about engaging in vegan advocacy conversations, recognizing pigs as individuals, and challenging speciesism in the media
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In this interview, Jeremy and I use an abolitionist animal rights perspective to examine three articles that were published on mainstream media websites, and we explore how we can move away from speciesist language use. We also discuss whether the words that we use in our vegan advocacy are understood by the general public. As well, Jeremy tells me about the experiences of the pigs Rosebud and Daisy at the microsanctuary.
During this discussion we explored some of the ideas of the animal rights scholar-activists David Nibert and Joan Dunayer (see also here). You can find the Unlearning Speciesist Language Facebook group, of which Jeremy is an admin, here!
News articles that we discussed on the show:
- "Two giant pandas from China to arrive at US National Zoo", The Guardian, 29 May 2024
- "Concerned about cruelty, animal rights group wants police at bull-riding event", CBC News, 31 May 2024
- "Water-hungry golf courses plague Arizona’s native javelina-filled landscape", Vox, 25 October 2023
At the end of the episode, we'll hear some excerpts from the song, "Creatures Great and Small", by the vegan singer-songwriter Ellie Sarty.
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
You can find Always for
Animal Rights on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
Go vegan, stay vegan, and let's remember to advocate for animal rights today and every day. Thanks for listening to the show!
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| Jeremy the Ape and Daisy the Pig |
Wednesday, 3 April 2024
Episode 102: Interview with Wendy McGovern about vegan ethics and language, anti-consumerism, ecofeminism, and anti-vivisection
In this interview, Wendy and I discuss the importance of viewing veganism as a holistic paradigm shift rather than only a diet, and we explore the issue of consumerism in relation to vegan ethics. Then Wendy speaks about how we can challenge speciesism through our language use, and how ecofeminist perspectives can help us to think critically and holistically about intersecting oppressions. We also discuss why the animal advocacy movement has shifted away from its previous focus on anti-vivisection activism. Finally, Wendy shares her thoughts on advocating for veganism and animal rights in our everyday lives.
Links:
Thrive Vegan World podcast: https://thriveveganworld.libsyn.com/
The Animal Rights Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwKCH_ItjqELgL3NE35hj70YazgZBHfZB
"Mexico's female matadors return to the world's largest bullring", Archived from NPR.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20240324134816/https://www.npr.org/2024/03/09/1236728490/mexico-bullfighting-women-bullfighters
Wendy McGovern in discussion with Roger Yates and Ronnie Lee about why the movement's focus shifted away from anti-vivisection activism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTniWsitwSo
Unlearning Speciesist Language Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/553752208470902
Roger Yates and Ronnie Lee's Still Alive! show discussing vegan activism ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z__CQhXkoUM
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
You can find Always for
Animal Rights on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
Go vegan,
stay vegan, and let's remember to advocate for animal
rights today and every day. Thanks for listening to the show!
Monday, 19 February 2024
Episode 101: Interview with Roger Yates about the Vegan Information Project, veganism as holistic social justice, and the importance of grassroots activism
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| Poster from the Vegan Information Project |
Roger’s 2005 PhD dissertation
focused on the social construction of speciesism. In the 1980's, he was
a Press Officer for the Animal Liberation Front, and in 2013 he co-founded the Vegan Information Project (also known as VIP) in Ireland. He has a blog, social media accounts, and a YouTube channel, where he advocates for veganism and animal rights from an abolitionist perspective.
In this interview, Roger outlines the history and philosophy of the Vegan Information Project, and he emphasizes the importance of understanding and challenging cultural speciesism as vegan advocates. He also speaks about the ethical and practical issues surrounding money in the animal advocacy movement, and why vegan advocates are sometimes accused of "forcing" our views on non-vegans. We discuss the importance of viewing veganism as a movement for holistic social justice, and we share our views about some of the things we'd like to see the vegan movement do differently in 2024 and beyond.
You can listen to the episode above or on CKCU 93.1 FM's website. You can also download the MP3 file from Archive.org.
You can find Always for
Animal Rights on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
Go vegan, stay vegan, and let's remember to advocate for animal rights today and every day. Thanks for listening to the show!

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| Posters from the Vegan Information Project |


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